Wednesday, April 22, 2009

Putting Your Torture Cart Before The Horse

The Bush administration applied relentless pressure on interrogators to use harsh methods on detainees in part determined to find evidence that wasn't there. Just an obsession to justify war and torture.
A former senior U.S. intelligence official familiar with the interrogation issue said that Cheney and former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld demanded that the interrogators find evidence of al Qaida-Iraq collaboration.

"There were two reasons why these interrogations were so persistent, and why extreme methods were used," the former senior intelligence official said on condition of anonymity because of the issue's sensitivity.

"The main one is that everyone was worried about some kind of follow-up attack (after 9/11). But for most of 2002 and into 2003, Cheney and Rumsfeld, especially, were also demanding proof of the links between al Qaida and Iraq that (former Iraqi exile leader Ahmed) Chalabi and others had told them were there."

It was during this period that CIA interrogators waterboarded two alleged top al Qaida detainees repeatedly — Abu Zubaydah at least 83 times in August 2002 and Khalid Sheik Muhammed 183 times in March 2003 — according to a newly released Justice Department document.
Bush's "If you are not with me, you are with the terrorists" sounds a lot different these days. Sounds more like "if you're not with my terrorism, you're about to be a target, home and abroad".

Still the conservatives buy into it. The social scientists turn out to be correct. Once a person buys into the propaganda they can never change their minds. They are prisoners of their own gullibility.

As Andrew Sullivan points out:
The first reason to use torture is to prevent a ticking time bomb that could kill millions; the second reason is as a routine part of intelligence gathering; the third is to produce false confessions to justify a war already planned. Torture is a powerful weapon, isn't it? Look how many it corrupted so completely and so fast.
Source: McClatchy

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